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Interview with Eric Ebbinghaus Part 2

Eric Ebbinghaus

3.  What’s the biggest challenge in pastoring at a large church?

Again, I’m gonna give you a couple since I think 1 “BIGGEST” challenge is an unfair question. Let me preface my challenges by saying I absolutely love working in a “Team Staff” type setting. We have 7 full-time directors here at GWC that work closely together on a daily and weekly basis. Knowing myself, my creative energy feeds heavily off working collaboratively in a group setting. I know if I’m thinking at my best it’s being done with a team. It only usually takes the pump being primed with one simple thought and it’s off to the races. That’s part of the curse of living with a supremely ADD brain.

The team setting does present a few challenges. Scheduling can be one of them. With so many departments all working simultaneously with support staff in each it’s very important we work collectively and not just in spite of each other. While we do work well as a team, failure to communicate can surprisingly result in the failure of all ministry areas, not just one. If one is succeeding, we all are.

We also have something I like to call the “Volunteer Myth.” Everyone automatically assumes the larger a church is, the larger a crop of people you have to draw from to take part in your ministries. Right? Yes and no. Yes in terms of face value. Technically there are more people overall to draw from. But the answer is often no in terms of who visits your church. Large churches are often painted with the brush of being a safe place to visit where you can fade into the background and preserve a certain amount of anonymity in order to evade possible recruiters. I would argue that this is true of all churches regardless of size. We pride ourselves at being a “small large church” where the leaders are easily accessible and getting plugged in to a ministry is easy. But, it’s often not as easy as it sounds. It takes real work, and in a youth ministry where our main weekly service is on Sunday mornings during second worship service, it means my recruiting work becomes significantly more complicated and challenging. This leads to my next thought…

Multiplying myself is absolutely essential. If I had to give a biggest challenge of working in a large church this is it. It is impossible to do my job well without handing things off and recruiting people to do so. Handing it off has come easier the more evident the need has become, finding new volunteers to do so hasn’t been quite as easy. Remember, the bigger the church, the bigger the children’s ministry is. Typically infants-5th grade ministries require more volunteers. It’s their nature. Bottom line is, Childrens ministry is a much less scary one to volunteer for than youth ministry, right? Well, at least that’s what the perception is. The challenge here is not competing with this ministry to find volunteers AND battling the temptation of recruiting from within, though some naturally make the change as their own children grow older. This also means that you’re recruiting from a pond that’s been pretty heavily fished. It takes a growing church to provide fresh people to recruit from.

Part 1 of the interview is here and Part 3 will be up later today.

Eric Ebbinghaus is the Director of Student Ministries at Greeley Wesleyan Church in Greeley, CO.

He blogs at www.ericebbinghaus.com.

Follow him on Twitter.

Check out the church website.

Interview with Eric Ebbinghaus Part 1

Eric Ebbinghaus

5 Questions with Eric Ebbinghaus, Student Ministries Director, Greeley Wesleyan Church

1.  How long have you been at Greeley and how did God open that door for you?

We’ve been  in Greeley for approximately 1 year this November. Hard to believe it’s already been that long with the way the church has opened up to us and accepted us as one of their own.

God’s grace is amazing. Brandi (my wife) and I found ourselves talking to Pastor Steve Wilson about the position here at a point in our lives where we had just endured 3 years of trying to understand where my exact place in ministry needed to be.

Did I still belong in youth ministry?

Did I still belong in ANY ministry?

Should I take some time away and try some other things?

10 weeks after resignation and finding it nearly impossible to find work of any kind, Pastor Steve made contact again to ask if we might still be interested in making Greeley our home. He flew out to meet us, offered the job and gave us the weekend to think and pray about it. We didn’t need the whole weekend! In fact, after a restless night of sleep, we barely even needed 24 hours! Something Brandi had said earlier in the summer kept coming back to us. She had expressed during the summer that we would make our permanent home here but didn’t know when, and didn’t think it would be right then. Sure enough, she was right. After 11 weeks with no work and 13 weeks without pay, we watched God provide for our family. One year later, we’re more excited about being here than we were when we arrived. If that’s possible :).

2.  You were in Missouri for several years.  What are some differences between Missouri and Colorado?

The differences are few but they are evident. One such difference is the sheer number of schools we have to work with. In a smaller community and different school system style I had approximately 3 schools with middle school and high school programs to work with. Here I have over a dozen including some separate middle and high schools. Aside from the numerical difference in schools, we’ve got a broader category of schools to choose from. Along with your run of the mill public school system, we have charter schools, which could briefly be described as an experimental public school, prep schools, private schools and a large home-schooled group. While these may not necessarily be MO vs. CO differences, they are certainly identified as differences from one community to the next.

Another is population diversity. Semi-rural/metro St. Louis, Missouri area was predominantly white, with some black and a sprinkling of Latino/Hispanic groups. Greeley is roughly 60% white, 35% Spanish speaking, and a 5% mixture of others. Simply put, the cultural differences are drastically contrasting here, making blending in our programs more of a challenge. Socioeconomic differences are more severe, and while both areas have been hit hard, Greeley’s recession decline has been a bit more hostile than Eastern MO with 45% of homes bought between 2005 and 2009 resulting in foreclosure.

Lastly, and possibly the hardest to swallow as a Christian pastor is, there is no “need” for church here. Confusing? This is the furthest I’ve ever lived from “Bible-belt” (sorry if that sterotype offends) areas. Despite the differences in attitude from Midwestern VS. Western personalities, lie the differences in the influence of the church. Being that this area of the US hasn’t been established as long as those areas further east means the impact of the church has had less time to saturate the area and the church itself wasn’t around when “American Christianity” was at its peak of influence. This could be viewed as both an extreme challenge and a blessing as well. While people’s answer to struggles and depravity is less commonly, “I need to get myself back into church,” the answers more usually revolve around finding ways to get things done on their own or with the help of others rather than enlist in God’s help. We less often see people looking to God for help when they find struggles or are in need, even the needy. It’s not natural, or in the back of the mind. It definitely rings true though that the harvest is plentiful and the workers INDEED are few.

It’s amazing to think that people who live within view of some of the most incredible mountains in North America fail to recognize the existence of the Creative Starter of it all. Oh, did I mention Colorado has mountains? THE mountains?! Living at almost 5,000 feet has definitely been quite a change, more than just geographically.

Parts 2 and 3 to this interview will be up later today.

Eric Ebbinghaus is the Director of Student Ministries at Greeley Wesleyan Church in Greeley, CO.

He blogs at www.ericebbinghaus.com.

Follow him on Twitter.

Check out the church website.


Accountability and Weigh In #1

Which way are you going?

Last week I posted about our new Accountability Group.  I heard a guy say last month that people who publicily announce their goals seldom reach them because talking about it makes them feel good enough not to follow through.  Here’s the low down:

1.  I’ve been reading James 1 this week, over and over. Here’s James 1: 2-4

Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance.  Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.

This has been a week of trials.  I awoke Monday morning to discover that my other blog had been hacked.  I hadn’t backed up my data in a while so it appears I will have to start from scratch.  This was a set back because of the time it took to secure that site and all the others I am hosting.  I am finding that the things you haven’t budgeting time for are the things that take the most time.  The trials of this week follow a great Sunday at Oakway Wesleyan and an amazing Trunk or Treat on Sunday night.  We partnered with two other local churches to minister to 2,000 people with 53 cars supplying the candy.  What a great night!  I should have expected Satan to come at me hard this week.  I am sad to report the following.

2.  My diet has been horrible this week.  Too much fast food and more soda in this one week than the entire past year combined(consider that I gave it up last year).  My weight stands at 205 and I did zero walking this week.  I could make excuses all day long.  I am not discouraged because through it all God has been with me and I know he want me to be “mature and complete.”

3.  Date night this weekend with my wife.  Excited to spend some time with her!

4.  Sabbath on Saturday.  This will include cutting the grass which means listening to some of my favorite worship music and podcasts.  A welcome break from the typical day.  Is it weird that I love cutting the grass(and folding laundry)?  What’s wrong with me?

5.  I got a lot of church work done.  Finished some down the road sermon preparation and upgraded the website.  I am also looking forward to our partnership with Dot’s Kitchen, a local soup kitchen.  We will be using the church van to pick up people in the community who need a hot meal, but have no way to get to Dot’s

There were parts of this week where I felt victorious and others where I felt defeated.  I’m gonna to enjoy my Sabbath and date night tomorrow and get rested up for Sunday.  Tomorrow is a new day full of amazing possibilities.  How about you?  Did you exercise consistently this week?  What about your diet?  Did you spend quality time in God’s word and have a day of rest?  We’re all in this together.

The Techology Show Notes November 3, 2010

The Techology Show
Show Notes
November 3, 2010

Today is Wednesday November 3, 2010.
I’m Heath Mullikin
I’m Matthew Tietje
I’m Tony Casey
I’m Phil Surett
and I’m Steve Stanley
Welcome to The Techology Show. A weekly podcast featuring technology, theology, and everything in between. The world’s only user-antagonistic podcast. Episode #082.

Tell listeners that we will be giving details about our $50.00 Amazon Gift card giveaway at the end of the show.

Phil Surett:    Tell us about your family
Tell us about your ministry
What encourages you these days?

CNET reviews Samsung Tab (Tj-I have video)

Apple Announces New Products (Tj-I have video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iVqYBOC_II

Art inspires hate and understanding
http://www.aolnews.com/nation/article/enrique-chagoya-artwork-inspires-hate-and-understanding-in-loveland-colorado/19687399

DOWNLOAD OF THE WEEK
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THEY SAID IT

“If you protect marriage and you protect life, but the federal government is destroying our future through a $20 trillion debt, that threatens our future just as much as moral decay does.”

Ralph Reed suggesting why Christians would be interested in The Tea Party’s emphasis on fiscal responsibility.

Source: Christianity Today

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2010/october/30.54.html

“Going forward, she has also agreed that total Royal Household spending will fall by 14 percent in 2012-2013 while grants to the household will be frozen in cash terms.”

Chancellor George Osborne explaining the Queen Elizabeth was going to have to endures some spending cuts.

Source: Reuters

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/39765133/ns/today-today_people/

“Fortune has confirmed that a Verizon iPhone will be released in early 2011.”

Sarah Ellison contributing writer for Fotune. The title of her article? “Get ready for Verizon’s ‘Dream Phone.’”

Source:Fortune

http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2010/10/29/verizon_iphone_seidenberg/

“Tiger clearly has not been the most dominant player in the world for a long, long time,”

CBS sportscaster Jim Nantz commenting on Tiger Woods falling to the No. 2 golfer in the world.

Source: CBS Sports

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/10/31/eveningnews/main7009546.shtml?tag=stack

“It’s not that I’m anti-marriage. I just hope that I can express a different idea within the bounds of a tradition,”

Chen Wei-yih commenting on her decision to marry herself.

Source: ESPN.com

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=301024009


U.K. Schools hold UFO Crash Drills
http://www.aolnews.com/weird-news/article/uk-schools-hold-ufo-crash-drills/19691533

Coming up:    Nov. 24 Amazon Gift Card giveaway.

Dec. 8 C.S. Lewis show.
Steve, Heath, Phil Surrett, Matthew where can our listeners find you.

If you want to do further research on anything we discussed today, you can find all the links to the stories we covered at our website www.thetechologyshow.com If you want to contact us, send your emails to thetechologyshow@gmail.com or leave us a voice mail by going to our website and click the “Call Me” button. Type your name and your number. Google Voice will automatically call you back. Leave a message and we may even play your comments on the air. Thanks for joining us! Good-by everybody.

Interview with Nate Lamb

Wesley Seminary

@WesleySeminary on Twitter

@NateLamb on Twitter

Join the Accountability Group!

Time to Step Up

A month ago I wrote the 100th Post Confession talking about my struggle with my weight.  Several people have expressed an interest in forming a group for online accountability for this and other issues.  It’s time to get this started.

1.  I will be accountable for my weight by posting a weigh in every two weeks and reporting on my eating habits.  I am taking the following action steps:

  • Drinking lots of water, cutting back on coffee, and cutting out sweet tea.(I gave up soda a year ago.)
  • Walking at least 30 minutes a day 5 days a week and adding weight training incrementally.  I have found that when I get the weight loss “bug” I train too hard to start and get discouraged from being too sore.  This is a lifestyle change…not a “bug.”
  • Cutting out fast food from my diet.
  • Monitoring my BMI.  You can check yours here.  I’m at 33.9 which is in the obese category.

2.  I will have a weekly date night with my spouse.

3.  I will blog about my devotional life.  I would love it if we all were going through the same scriptures together.  I’m starting in James Monday.

4.  I will celebrate the Sabbath.  I can’t wait to share how God uses this to refresh me.  The day may change from week to week, but it will be there.

5.  I will play with my children.  I intend to post pics and tweets of all the fun and mayhem!

6.  I will be faithful in my work.  For me this means setting goals, completing to do lists, and building relationships.  It means putting an end to procrastination.

Joining in means doing the following things.  First, comment on these posts and leave a link to your blog if you’re posting your action steps there.  Sign up for the newsletter for extra encouragement.  Agree to join the health and wellness blog carnival where I will give a topic for you to blog about and link to it from here(once a month).  Finally, pray for each other.  Support each other.  Encourage one another.  Celebrate with each other.

I look forward to hearing how God changes our lives.  Are you excited?  Are you in for the adventure?


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